切萨皮克震撼回归秀场:最高管理层与首席执行官尼克·戴尔交谈

你可以称之为天然气和页岩钻探先驱公司的卷土重来。第二季度显示,切萨皮克能源公司正在兑现其向股东返还现金、绿色生产并退出该行业石油业务的承诺。随着俄罗斯对乌克兰的战争颠覆了欧洲能源安全和天然气获取的叙事,切萨皮克的时机正按计划进行。

切萨皮克能源公司首席执行官尼克·戴尔在该公司位于俄克拉荷马城的企业园区内。(来源:Marshall Hawkins / 石油和天然气投资者)

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石油和天然气投资者


大多数石油和天然气行业的资深人士最终都认同其最常见的信条——命运是周期性的——至少部分是因为他们的忠诚需要一种狂热的乐观态度,认为他们最好的日子就在眼前。

如果说有一家美国能源生产商能够体现该行业的反弹能力,那可能就是切萨皮克能源公司(Chesapeake Energy Corp)。

切萨皮克公司由已故的 Aubrey McClendon 于近 40 年前创立,是水平钻井领域的先行者。在业务巅峰时期,该公司在德克萨斯州、路易斯安那州、宾夕法尼亚州和俄亥俄盆地运营着 175 个钻井平台。

但切萨皮克只是另一个在 2000 年代遭受长期低油价负担的天然气生产商。2020 年初,切萨皮克在应对低迷的大宗商品市场的同时,还背负着 70 亿美元的债务。随后,新冠肺炎 (COVID-19) 席卷全球,导致需求大幅下降。最终,切萨皮克投降了。2020年6月28日,该公司根据美国破产法第11章申请破产保护。

现在这就是所有古老的历史了。

切萨皮克进入破产并摆脱破产的目的是消除债务、重组公司战略并将业务重点重新集中在天然气上。自该公司重新上市不到两年以来,切萨皮克已经完成了所有这些工作,甚至更多。

今年夏天,首席执行官尼克·戴尔索与《石油和天然气投资者》主编 Deon Daugherty 进行了交谈,详细介绍了该公司新的、有针对性的财务战略,并详细阐述了切萨皮克为何成为能源领域最引人注目的投资机会今天。”

Deon Daugherty:到 2022 年中,切萨皮克已经产生了价值超过 10 亿美元的自由现金流,距离破产还不到两年。告诉我们您是如何实现这一目标的:是新资产、新管理还是新想法?

尼克·戴尔(Nick Dell):确实是以上所有。我们今天所处的位置的好处和困难之处在于我们经历了破产。我们能够真正改变公司的构成,我们能够彻底重塑我们的成本结构,这对于未来可持续的现金流状况非常重要。

切萨皮克历史上曾有过许多合同和遗留问题,这些合同和遗留问题成本相当高,显然有大量债务,而且还有很多负担重的运输合同。我们在破产中摆脱了这一切。因此,今天我们的成本结构非常严格,资产组合也得到了改善。正如您在问题中提到的那样,去年我们在并购方面做了很多工作,这也带来了一些真正巨大的好处。

DD:破产后你们能够重新谈判合同吗?

ND:在破产期间,您可以利用允许您拒绝合同的规则。基本上,这开启了一场大型的重新谈判,因此我们能够减少承诺并重新谈判我们需要的承诺。 

DD:这是公司破产的好处。面临哪些挑战?

ND:嗯,显然,最大的挑战是破产决定——他决定告诉所有利益相关者,他们不会看到计划投资切萨皮克的好处。这是一个极其困难的决定。坦率地说,这是一个可怕的决定,我们为此奋斗了十年的大部分时间。我们在避免这种最终结果方面取得了巨大进展。然后,随着疫情的影响,市场下跌,我们也无法逃脱。

DD:总而言之,是大流行导致切萨皮克钛合金和其他一些勘探与生产公司破产? 

ND:与大流行相关的价格暴跌是导致我们破产的原因。 

DD:自从破产后,切萨皮克对其投资组合进行了重大调整。接下来的足迹是什么、额外的公司交易还是只是补充?

ND:过去一年我们完成了很多工作。我们在海恩斯维尔购买了一项非常大的资产,并且在马塞勒斯购买了一项非常大的资产。我们还剥离了 Powder River 的一项相当大的资产,该资产在我们的投资组合中竞争力较弱。这给我们留下了一个我们非常满意的投资组合。

我们拥有巨大的库存——可以出售超过 10 年的库存,除此之外还有真正高质量的库存。因此,我们认为我们库存的深度和质量是无与伦比的,特别是在我们的天然气资产方面。我们拥有美国最好的天然气投资组合,因此我们不需要做任何其他事情。从并购的角度来看,我们对我们的投资组合非常满意。 

也就是说,我们认为我们通过完成的整合创造了很多价值。如果将来再次出现类似的机会,我们会很高兴想到它们。我们只知道,在价格上涨如此之快、如此之快的环境下,这使得我们去年完成的看起来如此有吸引力的交易变得更加困难。

Hart Energy 2022 年 9 月 - 石油和天然气投资者 - 高管与切萨皮克能源首席执行官尼克·戴尔 (Nick Dell) 聊天 - 头像“当我们考虑相对于我们今天的公司的回报规模时,它是非常大的。未来五年,我们将产生比今天衡量的整个市值还要多的自由现金流。”切萨皮克能源公司的尼克·戴尔索索说。

DD:鉴于近年来股东的需求没有增长,他们对收购有何反应? 

ND:真的很好,我认为这是因为我们有一个框架,我们称之为我们的“指导方针”,用于我们思考收购的方式。我们将它们分为不可协商的和可协商的。

我们不能为资产支付过高的费用。从现金流的角度来看,它必须具有增值性。它不会损害资产负债表;你必须保护你的资产负债表。它必须具有让您在第一天就可以感到自豪或很快就能改进的环境足迹。 

如果你把所有这些东西结合在一起,所有这些的结果就是它必须让你变得更好,而不仅仅是更大。完成所有这些,我认为投资者对整合的概念反应非常好。 

我们不需要出去进行新的等级探索。我们需要的是有效开发已确定的资源。当您整合资产时,您可以更有效地开发这些资源,您可以合理化成本,并且可以改善投资组合中更多资产的资本配置,从而提高回报。这确实是投资者希望确保您能够增加回报的方式。他们希望你能够增加现金并为股东带来回报,但你应该能够做到这一点,而不必像我们过去 10 到 15 年那样增加产量。 

DD:这种为股东带来回报的理念是怎样实现的? 

ND:我们认为我们拥有最引人注目的回报情况。虽然在今天的行业中,我们的基本股息为每股 2 美元,但除此之外,我们还有自由现金流 50% 的可变股息。然后我们有一个非常庞大的回购计划,目前设定为 20 亿美元。 

当我们考虑相对于我们今天的公司的回报规模时,它是非常大的。未来五年我们将产生比今天衡量的整个市值还要多的自由现金流。 

DD:这是一个相当不错的说法。你将如何做到这一点? 

ND:嗯,我们的股价太低了。这对我们来说意味着市场尚未完全接受或认可我们将在未来五年内产生的现金。这可能意味着投资者不相信该地带,也不相信大宗商品价格。 

但我们认为,这更多地与我们刚刚摆脱破产有关,需要证明我们的业绩记录并向投资者展示我们所做的事情是可持续的。 

我们认为,我们有一个故事可以告诉投资者,坦率地说,我们是目前能源领域最引人注目的投资机会,我们产生了大量现金,并且有能力将大量现金以平衡的方式返还给股东。可以长期支持这一点的表。 

现在你从许多公司看到的一件事是对大量现金流量的讨论——大量的现金流量数字——但实际上只有一小部分公司也在将大量现金返还给股东。 

DD:当您向股东返还大量现金时,您认为他们需要多长时间才能意识到切萨皮克重回正轨并能够长期支持这些回报? 

ND:我们对此会感到不耐烦,因为我们希望为投资者带来股价的上涨。我们知道他们也应该渴望看到这一点。但我认为这需要几个季度的时间。我们已经这样做了两个季度了。我们已经实施了两个季度的可变股息。我们对这两个季度的上涨感到惊讶。 

DD:该领域的几家公司同样表示其股票被低估,但该行业本身今年上半年的表现优于标准普尔指数。这如何协调?

ND:我们在过去 12 个月内才真正恢复到跑赢标准普尔指数的水平,但多年来我们在标准普尔指数中的表现却一直表现不佳。 

您可以通过多种不同的方式来衡量相对估值。既然我们正在向股东支付真正的现金回报,对于我们这个行业来说,最简单的方法之一就是查看收益率。与其他行业相比,我们股票的收益率确实很高。

您可以将石油和天然气公司的平均收益率与其他行业进行比较,发现它更高,因此相对被低估。然后你可以将切萨皮克与石油和天然气股票进行比较,你会发现我们的范围也比这更广泛。这就是当今能源领域最引人注目的投资机会。 

DD:一般投资者的情绪是如何演变的,或者他们仍然处于观望状态? 

ND:他们才刚刚开始回来。我们正在与一些记者、投资者进行一些良好的对话,但他们很谨慎。他们之所以持谨慎态度,是因为我们生活在一个价格非常高、粘性很大的环境中,而且它们在当今的通货膨胀中发挥着重要作用,对于一个一直与通货膨胀共存的行业来说,这是一个相对较新的现象。天然气价格在 10 年的大部分时间里都在下降,石油方面的价格在 5 年的时间里都在下降。 

我认为投资者希望看到更多的稳定性,他们希望了解他们将要所处的监管环境。我们在整个政治和媒体领域对石油和天然气的未来进行了很多广泛的讨论。支持或不支持负担得起的、可靠的和低碳能源的政策决定是什么。我认为投资者希望看到这一点扎根,他们希望看到一个行业正在做我们在切萨皮克正在做的事情,成为能源供应图景中可持续的一部分。 

DD:能源政策似乎相当棘手。您预计美国能源政策近期会发生什么?鉴于美国政府的动态,单一政策是否可能,而且是否有必要? 

ND:这是完全有必要的。我认为,过去一年,尤其是过去四五个月,我们所有人和全世界都清楚的一点是,世界应该放眼世界。世界需要更多能源。你可以用传统的方式来看待这一点,我们认为全球各地的农村社区都缺乏能源,或者他们居住的地方没有开发能源供应。 

但现在你真的开始在现有能源供应变得紧张的地方看到它。由于战争和俄罗斯供应的减少,你在欧洲肯定会看到这种情况。但目前在美国也确实看到了这一点,我们对能源的需求强劲。由于缺乏投资,我们的石油和天然气供应下降,而疫情又加剧了价格低廉的情况。鉴于我们都知道存在的资源,我们的价格比我们需要的要高。 

 

切萨皮克专注于 RSG 认证

切萨皮克能源公司首席执行官尼克·戴尔索在接受哈特能源独家采访时表示,到年底,切萨皮克能源公司在海恩斯维尔和马塞勒斯页岩盆地生产的所有天然气都将获得负责任来源认证。

负责任来源天然气(RSG)正在受到美国生产商的关注,他们希望为股东量化其减排努力。近年来,一些公司如雨后春笋般涌现,为他们提供帮助。

切萨皮克的旧 Marcellus 业务获得了 MiQ 甲烷标准和负责任能源开发 EO100 标准的认证,其中涵盖了广泛的 ESG 标准。Project Canary 等公司使用满足泄漏检测需求的监测技术提供基于测量的排放概况。戴尔索表示,它们提供了外部验证,表明公司的排放量和总体碳足迹尽可能低。

“我们的天然气产品组合具有非常非常低的碳足迹,排放量非常非常低,”戴尔索说。“但这不仅仅是为了利他主义。” [股东]认识到,为了在这个行业保持竞争力,我们都必须改善我们的碳足迹。”

切萨皮克已经为其整个海恩斯维尔和传统马塞勒斯业务获得了 RSG 认证,使其成为第一家对两个主要天然气盆地进行认证的生产商。该公司目前正在努力完成 3 月份从 Chief E&D Holdings 收购的 Marcellus 资产的相同验证流程。

戴尔索表示,切萨皮克工厂 4.5 Bcf/d 的产量将在未来五个月内获得 RSG 认证。

“我们拥有数千个主动甲烷监测设备,每年 365 天、每天 24 小时不间断地对我们生产设施的空气进行采样。你还必须拥有支持一流环境足迹的商业实践,”戴尔索说。“到目前为止,我们的海恩斯维尔和马塞勒斯资产已获得该集团负责任能源生产的“MiQ”级和 EO100 级认证,我们对此感到非常自豪。” �

初次认证后,评估将每年持续进行一次,并由第三方验证,以维持认证状态。

“这不是一张可以挂在墙上就感觉良好的证书,”戴尔索说。“您必须愿意在运营中持续致力于这一点并不断改进。我们正在为我们的业务创造可持续的价值,同时对我们经营所在的社区产生积极影响。”

DD:关于ESG问题,特别是环境问题,对于行业是否可以自我监管,或者是否需要政府介入并制定标准,存在不同的看法。你怎么看?

ND:总的来说,我们认为经过深思熟虑和制定的标准对行业有利。我们为我们的环境足迹感到自豪。我们知道,作为一个行业,我们都需要具有强大的环境足迹才能成为能源政策的一部分。 

我们有能力在国内和国际上提供负担得起的、可靠的和低碳的能源,并大大改善世界各地和国内的能源获取。我们必须非常认真地对待我们的环境足迹、我们对环境足迹的承诺以及改善环境足迹的承诺。如果这种情况要持续下去,如果我们要成功地改善世界获得能源的机会并实现负担得起、可靠和低碳的所有目标,我们就必须做出真正认真的承诺。 

所以,你可能确实需要一些真正的监管。我们有一些,而且我们的监管很好。我认为可以做一些事情,实际上只是遵循行业正在做的事情,并围绕它制定一些我认为会有所帮助的规则。 

DD:作为一家公司,您可以采取哪些措施来改善行业的ESG管理?

ND:我暂时停留在[环境]上。我们能做的还有很多。这是技术。这就是我们投资资产的方式。它正在走出去并改变我们的业务运作方式。通常,改变很小,但你必须进行数千次。 

我给你举个例子。今年,我们在整个领域改造了 19,000 多个气动设备。这听起来确实是一项艰巨的任务。我们将能够在一年内做到这一点,并且完成该项目所需的成本不到 2500 万美元。因此,这是一笔非常合理的支出,它将对我们的二氧化碳和甲烷排放产生重大影响。

我们将在我们的业务范围内做那些首先也是最重要的是改善我们资产的排放状况的事情。今天,我们将自己完成这些工作。 

不过,这正是监管可以发挥作用的地方。我们是一家拥有充足资源的大公司,并真正致力于改善我们的环境足迹。当您进入较小的公司和私人组织时,您可能没有相同的资本或动力来兑现这一承诺。因此,如果制定了一条规则,实际上提高了对每个人的要求,并使每个人都处于公平的竞争环境中,那么这将一直贯穿供需经济学,这将为整个行业提供更好的整体产品。

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Chesapeake Rocks a Returns Runway: C-suite Chat with CEO Nick Dell’Osso

You can probably call it a comeback—for both natural gas and the company that pioneered the shale drilling of it. The second quarter showed that Chesapeake Energy Corp. is making good on its pledges to return cash to shareholders, green up its production and exit the oil side of the industry. And as Russia’s war on Ukraine flips the narrative on energy security and access to natural gas in Europe, Chesapeake’s timing is on schedule.

Chesapeake Energy Corp. CEO Nick Dell’Osso at the company’s corporate campus in Oklahoma City. (Source: Marshall Hawkins / Oil and Gas Investor)

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Oil and Gas Investor


Most veterans of the oil and gas industry eventually subscribe to its most common mantra—that its fortunes are cyclical—at least in part because their loyalty requires a sort of zealous optimism that their best days are just ahead.

And if there is a U.S. energy producer that embodies the industry’s ability to rebound, it may be Chesapeake Energy Corp.

Founded almost 40 years ago by the late Aubrey McClendon, Chesapeake was an early mover in horizontal drilling. At the top of its game, the company was operating 175 rigs in Texas, Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Ohio basins.

But Chesapeake was just another gas producer burdened by longtime low gas prices during the 2000s. Along with managing in the dismal commodity market, Chesapeake was bucking beneath the weight of $7 billion in debt in early 2020. And then COVID-19 swept around the world and decimated demand. Finally, Chesapeake capitulated. On June 28, 2020, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

That’s all ancient history now.

Chesapeake entered and emerged from bankruptcy intending to wipe out its debt, retool its corporate strategy and refocus its operations on natural gas. Less than two years since the firm regained its stock listing, Chesapeake has done all of that and more.

CEO Nick Dell’Osso spoke with Oil and Gas Investor editor-in-chief Deon Daugherty this summer, detailing the firm’s new, focused financial strategy and laying out exactly what makes Chesapeake “the most compelling investment opportunity in the energy space today.”

Deon Daugherty: Chesapeake has generated more than $1 billion worth of free cash flow by the midpoint of 2022, less than two years after emerging from bankruptcy. Tell us how you’ve accomplished this: Is it new assets, new management or new ideas?

Nick Dell’Osso: It’s really all of the above. What’s great about where we sit today and what is tough about where we sit today is having gone through bankruptcy. We were able to really change the makeup of the company, and we were able to completely remake our cost structure in a way that’s been really important to having a sustainable cash flow profile going forward.

Chesapeake had a history of having a number of contracts and legacy issues that were pretty high cost and obviously a lot of debt but also a lot of transportation contracts that were burdensome. We shed all of that in bankruptcy. And so today we have a really tight cost structure and an improved portfolio of assets as well. We’ve done a lot of work on M&A, as you sort of alluded to in your question, over the last year, and that is yielding some really tremendous benefits as well.

DD: Were you able to renegotiate contracts from the bankruptcy?

ND: During bankruptcy, you can take advantage of the rules that allow you to reject contracts. Basically that opens up a big renegotiation, and so we were able to reduce commitments and renegotiate the commitments that we needed. 

DD: That’s a benefit of corporate bankruptcy. What were the challenges?

ND: Well, obviously, the biggest challenge is the decision to go into bankruptcy⁠—the decision to tell all of your stakeholders that they are not going to see the benefits of their planned investment in Chesapeake. And that’s an incredibly difficult decision to make. A horrible decision to make, frankly, and one that we fought for the better part of 10 years. And we had made tremendous progress in avoiding that eventual outcome. Then, with the market fall of the pandemic, we couldn’t escape it.

DD: So all told, it was the pandemic that ushered Chesapeake⁠⁠—and some other E&Ps⁠—into bankruptcy? 

ND: The price collapse associated with the pandemic is what got us into bankruptcy. 

DD: Since emerging from bankruptcy, Chesapeake has reworked its portfolio significantly. What’s next for the footprint, additional corporate deals or just bolt-ons?

ND: We completed a lot during the past year. We purchased a very large asset in the Haynesville [and] a very large asset in the Marcellus. We also divested a sizable asset in the Powder River that was less competitive in our portfolio. That’s left us now with a portfolio that we’re really happy with.

We have a huge inventory⁠—well more than 10 years of inventory in all of our plays—and a really high-quality inventory on top of that. So we think the combination of depth and quality in our inventory is unmatched, particularly in our gas assets. We have the best gas portfolio in the United States, and so we don’t need to do anything else. From an M&A perspective, we’re pretty content with our portfolio. 

That said, we think we’ve created a lot of value through the consolidation that we’ve completed. And if similar opportunities were to arise again in the future, we’d be happy to think about them. We just know that in an environment where prices have gone up so far, so fast, that makes deals that look as attractive as what we’ve completed over the past year much harder.

Hart Energy September 2022 - Oil and Gas Investor - C-suite Chat with Chesapeake Energy CEO Nick Dell’Osso - headshot“When we think about that magnitude of returns relative to the company we are today, it’s incredibly large. We will generate more free cash flow over the next five years than the entirety of our market cap as measured today.”—Nick Dell’Osso, Chesapeake Energy Corp.

DD: Given the no-growth demand from shareholders in recent years, how have they responded to the acquisitions? 

ND: Really well, and I think it’s because we’ve had a framework that we refer to as our “guidelines” for the way we’ve thought about acquisitions. We talk about them as non-negotiables and negotiables.

We can’t overpay for an asset. It has to be accretive from a cash flow perspective. It can’t damage the balance sheet; you have to protect your balance sheet. And it has to have an environmental footprint that you can either be proud of on Day One or improve upon very quickly. 

If you bring together all of those things, the upshot of all of that is it has to make you better, not just bigger. Accomplishing all of that, I think investors have reacted very well to the concept of consolidation. 

We don’t need to go out and have new rank exploration. What we need is efficient development of the resources that have been identified. And when you consolidate assets, you can more efficiently develop those resources, you can rationalize costs and you can improve your capital allocation across a bigger set of assets in a portfolio such that you increase your returns. And that’s really how investors want to make sure that you can grow return. They want you to be able to grow cash and returns to shareholders, but you ought to be able to do that without necessarily growing production in the ways that we have over the past 10 to 15 years. 

DD: What is that philosophy done for generating shareholder returns? 

ND: We think we have the most compelling return profile. While in the industry today we have a base dividend of $2 a share, we have a variable dividend of 50% of free cash flow beyond that. And then we have a very large buyback program that’s currently set to $2 billion. 

When we think about that magnitude of returns relative to the company we are today, it’s incredibly large. We will generate more free cash flow over the next five years than the entirety of our market cap as measured today. 

DD: That’s quite a statement. How will you manage to do that? 

ND: Well, our stock price is too low. What that means to us is that the market has not fully adopted or recognized that cash that we will generate over the next five years. That could mean that investors don’t believe in the strip, and they don’t believe in commodity prices. 

But we think it’s more to do with us being new out of bankruptcy and needing to prove our track record and showcase to investors that what we’re doing is sustainable. 

We think that we have a story to tell investors about being, frankly, the most compelling investment opportunity in the energy space right now with the amount of cash that we’re generating and ability to return so much of it to shareholders with a balance sheet that can support that for the long term. 

One thing you see from a lot of companies right now is a discussion of a lot of cash flow—giant cash flow numbers—but only a much smaller group is actually returning that cash to shareholders in a large magnitude as well. 

DD: When you’re returning high volume cash back to shareholders, how long do you think it will take for them to realize that Chesapeake is back on track and can support these returns long term? 

ND: We’ll be impatient about it because we want to provide that uplift in stock price to our investors. And we know that they should be eager to see that as well. But I think it’ll take, you know, a couple of quarters. We’ve done this now for two quarters. We’ve had a variable dividend in place for two quarters. And we’ve surprised at the upside with both of those quarters. 

DD: Several companies in the space similarly say their stock is undervalued and yet the sector itself spent the first half of the year outperforming the S&P. How does that reconcile?

ND: We’ve just gotten back to outperforming the S&P really within the last 12 months, but we were such an underperformer in the S&P for so many years. 

You can measure the relative valuation in a lot of different ways. One of the easiest ways for our industry, now that we are paying real cash returns to shareholders, is just to look at the yield. And the yield on our stocks is really wide compared to other industries.

You can compare an average oil and gas company yield to other industries and see that it’s higher and so therefore relatively undervalued. And then you can compare Chesapeake to oil and gas stocks and see that we are wider than that as well. That’s where we come back to saying the most compelling investment opportunity in the energy space today. 

DD: How has generalist investor sentiment evolved, or are they still in a sort of a wait-and-see pattern? 

ND: They’re just starting to come back. We are having some good conversations with some journalists, investors, but they’re cautious. They’re cautious because we live in an environment where as much as prices are very high and seem very sticky and they’re having a big role in inflation today, this is a relatively new phenomenon for an industry that has been living with declining prices for the better part of 10 years on the gas side and five years on the oil side. 

I think investors want to see a little bit more stability, and they want to understand the regulatory environment they’re going to be in. We have so much discussion broadly in the general political and media space about the future of oil and gas and what will the policy decisions be to either support or not support affordable, reliable and lower-carbon energy. I think investors want to see that take hold, and they want to see an industry that is doing the things that we’re doing in Chesapeake to be a sustainable part of the energy supply picture. 

DD: Energy policy seems pretty tricky. What do you foresee happening in the near term for U.S. energy policy? Is a singular policy possible given the dynamics of the U.S. government, and moreover, is it necessary? 

ND: It’s totally necessary. And I think the thing that’s clear to all of us and clear to the whole world over the past year, but especially the last four or five months, is that the world should look broadly. The world needs more energy. And you can see it in the traditional way that we think about rural communities around the globe being starved of energy or not having had energy supply developed where they live. 

But now you’re really starting to see it in places where established supply for energy is becoming tight. You see it certainly in Europe as a result of the war and the reduction in Russian supply. But you really also see it in the U.S. at the moment too where we have a robust demand for energy. We have had declining supplies of oil and gas as a result of lack of investment, with low prices then exacerbated by the pandemic. And we have higher prices than we need to have, given the resources that we all know exist. 

 

CHESAPEAKE FOCUSES ON RSG CERTIFICATION

All of the natural gas produced by Chesapeake Energy Inc. in the Haynesville and Marcellus shale basins will be certified as responsibly sourced by year-end, CEO Nick Dell’Osso told Hart Energy in an exclusive interview.

Responsibly sourced gas (RSG) is gaining traction among U.S. producers that want to quantify their emissions reduction efforts for shareholders. And a handful of firms have sprouted in recent years to help them.

Chesapeake achieved certification of its legacy Marcellus operations under the MiQ methane standard and the EO100 Standard for Responsible Energy Development, which cover a broad range of ESG criteria. Companies such as Project Canary offer measurement-based emissions profiles using the monitoring technology that has caught up to the need for leak detection. They provide an external validation that a company’s emissions and overall carbon footprint are as low as possible, Dell’Osso said.

“Our gas portfolio has a very, very low carbon footprint, a very, very low emissions profile,” Dell’Osso said. “But this isn’t just for altruism. [Shareholders] recognize that in order to remain competitive in this industry, we all have to be improving our carbon footprint.”

Chesapeake has already secured the RSG certification for its entire Haynesville and legacy Marcellus operations making it the first producer to certify two major natural gas basins. The firm is now working toward completing the same validation process for the Marcellus assets it acquired from Chief E&D Holdings in March.

Altogether, Chesapeake production of 4.5 Bcf/d will have the RSG certification within the next five months, Dell’Osso said.

“We have thousands of active methane monitoring devices that are constantly sampling the air on our production facilities for 365 days a year, 24 hours a day. You also have to have business practices that support a best-in-class environmental footprint,” Dell’Osso said. “We’ve received the grade “A” MiQ and EO100 certification for responsible energy production from this group for both our Haynesville and the Marcellus assets that we have certified thus far, and we’re really proud of that.”

Following the initial certification, the assessments will continue annually, validated by a third party, to maintain certification status.

“This is not a certificate that you just put on the wall and feel good about,” Dell’Osso said. “You have to be willing to commit to this on an ongoing basis in your operations and have continuous improvement. We’re creating sustainable value for our business while positively impacting the communities where we operate.”

DD: Regarding ESG matters, particularly the environmental matters, there are different schools of thought as to whether the industry can regulate itself or if it needs the government to step in and set standards. What are your thoughts?

ND: Generally, we think well thought out and established standards are good for the industry. We’re proud of our environmental footprint. And we know that we, as an industry, all need to have a strong environmental footprint in order to be a part of the energy policy. 

We have an ability to deliver affordable, reliable and lower-carbon energy domestically and internationally and greatly improve the access to energy around the world again as well as domestically. We have to be really serious about our environmental footprint and our commitment to that environmental footprint and a commitment to improving that environmental footprint. If that’s going to continue, if we’re going to be successful in improving the world’s access to energy and achieving all of those goals of it being affordable, reliable and lower carbon, we have to have a really serious commitment. 

So, you probably do need some real regulation around that. We have some and the regulation that we have is good. And I think there are things that can be done around really just following what the industry is doing and putting some sort of rules around it that I think would be helpful. 

DD: As a company, what can you do to improve the industry’s ESG management?

ND: I’ll stay on [environmental] for the moment. There’s plenty we can do. It is technology. It is how we invest in our assets. It’s going out and making changes in the way our business works. Oftentimes it’s very small changes, but you have to make them thousands of times. 

I’ll give you an example. This year we are retrofitting over 19,000 pneumatic devices across our field. That sounds like a really large undertaking. We will be able to do that in a year, and it will cost us less than $25 million to complete that project. So, it is a very logical amount of money to spend, and it will have a big impact on our CO2 and methane emissions.

We will do those things within our business that first and foremost improve upon the emissions profile of our assets. Today, we’ll do those on our own. 

This is where regulation, though, can be helpful. We are a large company with ample resources and a real commitment to improve [our] environmental footprint. As you get into smaller companies and private organizations, you probably don’t have the same capitalization or drive to deliver on that commitment. And so if there is a rule in place that actually steps up the requirements for everyone and puts everyone on a level playing field, then that will flow all the way through the supply demand economics and that will give you a better overall product as an industry.