Diamondback 首席财务官:法规最终可能会帮助该行业

尽管由于 EPA 意外撤销而导致的预期法规仍存在不确定性,但“无论如何,我们的股东要求我们做得比法规更好,”Diamondback Energy 首席财务官 Kaes Van Hof 告诉 Hart Energy 石油执行会议的与会者。

德克萨斯州米德兰——尽管美国环保署致力于制定行业排放法规,但响尾蛇能源公司等公司仍在寻求满足不同的、可能更严格的期望。

在 Hart Energy 执行石油会议的开幕主题演讲中,Diamondback Energy 总裁兼首席财务官 Kaes Van Hof 表示,该公司的股东正在推动该公司在排放方面做得比法规要求的更好。

他说:“我们并不确切知道规则是什么,但周五下午,美国环保局在选举后的上周五下午突然降息。”

尽管预期的法规仍然存在不确定性,但“无论如何,我们的股东要求我们做得比法规更好,”他说。另一方面,法规最终可能会帮助该行业获得“公众的信任,因为我们正在创造正确的环境并生产桶。”

范霍夫表示,根据美国环保局最初的甲烷税规定,响尾蛇公司不会支付任何费用,因为“它已经远远超过了这些数字”。

与此同时,他指出,不幸的是,二叠纪盆地的燃烧再次开始加剧。

“我认为这将是暂时的,而过去我们需要等待多年才能建成管道,”范霍夫说。“燃烧是一个行业问题。这不仅仅是生产者的问题,也不仅仅是采集者的问题。这是一个行业问题。我们必须一起解决这个问题。”

他说,围绕石油和天然气行业的政治言论一直“令人沮丧”,并导致人们对该行业缺乏了解。

“一般来说,言辞没有帮助。它没有帮助这个行业获得人才,也没有帮助我们从学校招聘工程师。我的意思是,过去五年来,大学校的工程申请大幅下降。因此,这肯定会损害业务。”范霍夫说。

但是,他指出,像响尾蛇这样的公司正在产生现金流,并且更多的投资正在回归。

“这是一项在利率不断上升的世界中产生真正现金的业务,”他说。“我们正在将利润返还给投资者。”

响尾蛇的后院

他说,响尾蛇还专注于“在我们最了解岩石的后院”的正确生长。在二叠纪盆地,“我们认为我们的成本结构和对岩石的理解具有不同的优势。”

2007 年,Diamondback 开始在米德兰盆地占地 10,000 英亩,如今已在二叠纪盆地扩大到 500,000 英亩。

“我们不擅长的是在探索上下大赌注。我们是一家收购和开发公司,”他说。

这一战略促使响尾蛇公司于 10 月份收购了 FireBird Energy LLC

“在这个案例中,我们看到了显着的井控和良好的井性能,”他说。

现在,二叠纪盆地的页岩已经成熟。

范霍夫表示,“石油和天然气显然已经存在很长时间了,但长期以来它并不是一个高增长的行业。” “页岩油是石油和天然气行业中的一个高增长领域,我认为,当我们了解这项业务时,很自然地是时候放慢脚步,产生回报并将现金返还给我们的股东了。”

他注意到一些传言称巴内特在盆地进行了一些非常好的测试。“我认为这证明了这里有多少岩石资源,”他说。

响尾蛇在该盆地的西侧拥有一个引人注目的位置,但他表示,该公司没有承诺何时测试这些水库。

“我们当然会密切关注同行最近的一些结果,”范霍夫说。

在公司白手起家后,他表示公司并不寻求退出。

“我们制造桶并且制造桶比任何人都便宜。在以商品为基础的业务中,低成本运营商会获胜,”范霍夫说。生产商应该“随着时间的推移拥有更多的工厂或更多的产量”。这就是我们对业务的看法。我们不考虑退出。当然,如果我们有退出途径,我们会做对股东有利的事情。”

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Diamondback CFO: Regulations May Ultimately Help the Industry

While uncertainty remains around the expected regulations resulting from the surprise EPA drop, “our shareholders demand we do better than the regulations anyway,” Diamondback Energy CFO Kaes Van’t Hof told attendees of Hart Energy’s Executive Oil Conference.

MIDLAND, Texas—Even as the EPA works to set emissions regulations in the industry, companies like Diamondback Energy Inc. are seeking to meet a different, likely stricter, set of expectations.

Speaking during the opening keynote for Hart Energy’s Executive Oil Conference, Diamondback Energy President and CFO Kaes Van’t Hof said the company’s shareholders are pushing the company to do better on emissions than regulations dictate.

“We don’t know exactly what the rules are, but a convenient Friday afternoon EPA drop hit us last Friday after the election,” he said.

While uncertainty remains around the expected regulations, “our shareholders demand we do better than the regulations anyway,” he said. On the other hand, regulations may ultimately help the industry to get “credit from the general public that we are doing the right environment and producing the barrels.”

Under the original EPA methane tax, Diamondback would not pay any fees because “we’re already well ahead of those numbers,” Van’t Hof said.

At the same time, he noted that flaring has, unfortunately, begun picking up in the Permian Basin again.

“I think it's going to be temporary this time versus the past where we wait multiple years for a pipeline to get built,” Van’t Hof said. “Flaring is an industry issue. It's not just a producer issue, it's not just a gatherer issue. It's an industry issue. We’ve got to solve it together.”

Political rhetoric around the oil and gas industry has been “disheartening” and contributes to a lack of an understanding about the industry, he said.

“Generally, rhetoric does not help. It hasn't helped this industry acquire talent, hasn't helped us recruit engineers out of school. I mean engineering applications at the big schools are down significantly over the last five years. So, it certainly hurts the business,” Van’t Hof said.

But, he noted, companies like Diamondback are generating cash flow, and more investments are coming back.

“This is a business that generates real cash in a world where interest rates are rising,” he said. “We're returning profit to investors.”

Diamondback’s backyard

Diamondback is also focused on the right growth “in our backyard where we know the rock best,” he said. In the Permian Basin, “we think we have a differential advantage from our cost structure and our understanding of the rock.”

In 2007, Diamondback started with 10,000 acres in Midland Basin and has since built that up to 500,000 acres in the Permian today.

“What we're not good at is making big bets on exploration. We're an acquire and exploit company,” he said.

And that strategy led to Diamondback’s October purchase of FireBird Energy LLC.

“In this case, we saw significant well control and good well performance,” he said.

Now, shale in the Permian Basin has matured.

“Oil and gas have obviously been around for a long time, and it hasn't been a high growth sector for a long time,” Van’t Hof said. “But shale is a high growth sector within the oil and gas industry, and I think it's natural that as we learn about this business it's time to slow down, generate returns and return that cash to our shareholders.”

He noted some rumors of some really good tests of the Barnett in the basin. “I think that just is a testament to how much rock resource there is,” he said.

Diamondback has a Limelight position on the western side of the basin, but he said there were no promises about when the company would test the reservoirs.

“We’re certainly keeping our eye on what some recent results have looked like from peers,” Van’t Hof said.

And after the company has worked to build itself from nothing, he said the company isn’t seeking an exit.

“We manufacture barrels and manufacture barrels cheaper than anybody else. And in a commodity-based business, the low-cost operator wins,” Van’t Hof said. And that a producer should “own more factories or more production over time. So that's how we think about the business. We don't think about an exit. Certainly, we will do what's right for our shareholders if there ever was an exit approach to us.”